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News 04/25/12 – Updated 2138 Hrs. Eastern

The Pitfalls of the New “Ozone Initiative”

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/04/25/controversial-ozone-initiative-that-could-cost-you-your-job.aspx

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State Threatens to Shut Down Nutrition Blogger‏

http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8992

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Fashion Statement Is Clear – the Gun Isn’t

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/us/fashion-statement-is-clear-the-gun-isnt.html?_r=2&src=me&ref=general

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The old Order out of Chaos ploy again…

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46200

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Just a reminder…

UAW Behind Protests-Says Union to Train 100K for “99%” Campaign

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120223/AUTO01/202230348
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Another way to kill US farmers: Seize their bank accounts on phony charges
http://foodfreedomgroup.com/2012/04/23/obama-seizes-farmers-money/
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Federal Judge Dismissed Libel Suit Against Ban-Bam’s Sodomite

http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/libel-case-against-obamas-gay-accuser-tossed/
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Native Oregonian

http://nativeoregonian.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/artists-dont-let-the-boot-heels-of-fascism-get-to-you/
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Pentagon sets up new spy agency to eavesdrop on a changing world

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/24/pentagon-new-spy-agency
Besides being an ass-wipe, Panetta looks like that puppet from The Saw.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Is there a drone in your neighbourhood? Rise of spy planes exposed after FAA is forced to reveal 63 launch sites across U.S.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134376/Is-drone-neighbourhood-Rise-killer-spy-planes-exposed-FAA-forced-reveal-63-launch-sites-U-S.html#ixzz1t5cG65bM

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EPA Official, EPA official, Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz,: We’re “Crucifying” Oil And Gas Companies…

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/04/25/video-epa-official-compares-agency-enforcement-to-roman-crucifictions/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3GB_b7Nuo&feature=player_embedded

As Mr. Traficant would say, this man needs to be kicked in the crotch.

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Green Activists Trash Park on Earth Day
http://nation.foxnews.com/earth-day/2012/04/24/green-activists-trash-park-earth-day

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Apr 25th, 2012
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  1. eric
    Apr 25th, 2012 at 17:15 | #1

    EPA Official: We’re “Crucifying” Oil And Gas Companies…
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/25/epa-official-were-crucifying-oil-and-gas-companies/


    snake!

  2. Jesse
    Apr 25th, 2012 at 18:34 | #2

    http://nation.foxnews.com/earth-day/2012/04/24/green-activists-trash-park-earth-day

    Betting a good amount don’t wipe enough after they shit either

    • el
      Apr 26th, 2012 at 10:39 | #3

      looking into this further, it seems there were no Earth Day events actually happening there……

      • Doyel
        Apr 26th, 2012 at 10:46 | #4

        I don’t believe the Huff Post was saying there were…I think they were relaying the irony of the situation. Besides, anybody can have a bullshit earth day event anywhere they want and aren’t required to advertise the fact.

        • innocentbystander
          Apr 26th, 2012 at 15:31 | #5

          Actually, the littering occurred on Saturday the 21st. Follow up report showed that the trash was discovered on Sunday morning, and the “earth day” people went around picking up all the trash. This happened at one of the two parks mentioned, I think it was Dolores Park. The liberal website that originally published the report is fulla crap anyway, it’s obvious. It kind of turns out to be non-story for the most part. The city vowed to do more cleanup there, after the fact…

          • Doyel
            Apr 26th, 2012 at 15:45 | #6

            No follow-up report was needed, it said clearly it was partying from Saturday. Again, it seems pretty clear that it was reported more out of irony of the situation than anything else.

            • Jesse
              Apr 26th, 2012 at 17:46 | #7

              So the news story would be that ‘normal’ people trashed the park (which would imply it happens often).

              • innocentbystander
                Apr 27th, 2012 at 13:53 | #8

                Okay you got me, I’ll come clean – ‘I’ trashed the park haha. The title was a typo. Fox News meant to say “Green Activists [picked up all the] Trash [in a] Park on Earth Day[!] hahaha…

                • Doyel
                  Apr 27th, 2012 at 14:18 | #9

                  No, I could actually care less what the chi-coms at Fox titled their piece. I went to the original article that promulgated Huff Post which was then copied by Fox-com. I expected you would have done the same, but I shouldn’t have had such expectations.

  3. Apr 25th, 2012 at 19:14 | #10

    Ralph Rieckermann – a former bass player for the band Scorpions (interesting name in it’s self) said that he has gone to snuff parties where the guests spent around 100,000 $ to get in. Of course TMZ has to make a joke out of people being murdered.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JiQAzZ0tzM

    • Hannibal
      Apr 25th, 2012 at 21:58 | #11

      wtf

    • eric
      Apr 26th, 2012 at 09:14 | #12

      well that just made my blood boil…..

      • john
        Apr 27th, 2012 at 00:07 | #13

        Who knows if it is even true or not just because some guy claimed. Perhaps if he presented evidence or sources that could be checked out it might be another story.

  4. Cams2
    Apr 25th, 2012 at 19:37 | #15
  5. RP
    Apr 25th, 2012 at 20:33 | #16
  6. innocentbystander
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 01:44 | #17

    Senate Hearing On SB1070, State Immigration Laws

    http://www.c-span.org/Events/Senators-Hear-About-Role-of-State-Immigration-Laws/10737430109-1/

    Interesting, a veritable commie circus. Nothing of any substance on the part of the opposing majority present. Just a parade of emotional excuses claiming SB1070 “unconstitutional”. Total hypocrisy and exemplary “mob rule” from the feds and other “interested parties”, headed by none other than the infamous Schumer.

    http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Schumer-weighs-in-on-immigration-case-3507563.php

    • Doyel
      Apr 27th, 2012 at 14:20 | #18

      Of course not and the opening remarks by Schumer were just as ignorant as expected. The circus is in full swing with the trained monkey show coming next.

  7. JB
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 06:19 | #19

    “The Dark Knight Rises” wages class warfare in new footage

    http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/04/24/the-dark-knight-rises-cinemacon-2012/

  8. Mudjack
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 14:00 | #20

    Commit A Crime
    by
    Chester A. Burnett A.K. A. Howlin’ Wolf
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZPCjwu0kw&feature=BFa&list=FL22P857tcN9BWYZCHeiyVZQ

    I’m gonna leave you woman before I commit a crime
    I’m gonna leave you woman before I commit a crime
    You tried so hard to kill me woman it just was not my time
    You put poison in my coffee instead of milk or cream
    You put poison in my coffee instead of milk or cream
    You bout the evilest woman that I ever seen
    You mixed my drinks with a can of Red Devil lye
    You mixed my drinks with a can of Red Devil lye
    Then you sit down watch me hopin’ that I might die

    • eric
      Apr 26th, 2012 at 16:41 | #21

      Howlin Wolf – Back Door Man
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVIA1n5ng4Y&feature=related

      check out the ring he’s wearing around 3:09 (right hand)

      • Mudjack
        Apr 30th, 2012 at 18:22 | #22

        Yep. The Wolf was a Freemason.

        So, too, was Johnny Cash and Louis Armstrong.

        I asked the question, in an earlier post on music: ‘what do Howlin’ Wolf, Johnny Cash and Louis Armstrong have in common?’ No one answered.

        Well, know ya know. Lol.

        As an aside, from my investigation I can’t see that any of them were heavily involved in Masonry. All just Blue Lodge members, only ascending to their first degree, near as I can tell. All of these men were extremely successful in their careers however and they may very well have used their membership to help them further their careers whenever/wherever they could.

  9. Mudjack
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 14:14 | #23

    Who Do Ya Love?
    by
    Bo Diddley
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAGoqMZRLB4
    I walked 47 miles of barbed wire,
    Used a cobra snake for a neck tie.
    Got a brand new house on the roadside,
    Made out of rattlesnake hide.
    I got a brand new chimney made on top,
    Made out of human skulls.
    Now come on darling let’s take a little walk, tell me,
    Who do you love,
    Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love.

    Arlene took me by the hand,
    And said oooh eeeh daddy I understand.
    Who do you love,
    Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love.
    The night was black and the night was blue,
    And around the corner an ice wagon flew.
    A bump was a hittin’ lord and somebody screemed,
    You should have heard just what I seen.
    Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love.

    Arleen took me by my hand, she said Ooo-ee Bo you know I understand
    I got a tombstone hand and a graveyard mind,
    I lived long enough and I ain’t scared of dying.

    Who do you love

  10. Mudjack
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 14:16 | #24
  11. Mudjack
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 14:27 | #25

    Well, I just got my, “Statehood The Territorial” package in the mail yesterday and got to sit and watch some of the vids and browse the books. Great stuff.

    Loved the Andrew Jackson and debt money comments in the vids. Jackson was the fucking greatest. Period. He knew all along what them sneaky sons-of-bitches were up to — and kicked their asses for it.

    Maybe we can do the same.

    Looks like AZ and some of the other western states are off to a good start anyway.

  12. Mudjack
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 14:46 | #26
  13. Mudjack
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 14:51 | #27

    “No one here gets out alive — you get yours — I’ll get mine”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bAFITGnjrg

  14. matt d
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 19:10 | #30
    • el
      Apr 27th, 2012 at 14:43 | #31

      CISPA ;( ;( ;( ;( ;(

      *tears

      • Doyel
        Apr 27th, 2012 at 17:12 | #32

        Yep, and fuk everybody who voted for that shit and fuk everybody who is saying that Obama is against it. Remember all the rhetoric from assholes when the NDAA passed the House? Oh, don’t worry, Obama is against the NDAA (that was while he was signing it, but of course we can all feel better about our country because he said he had reservations about it).

      • Doyel
        Apr 27th, 2012 at 17:21 | #33

        And while I am on the topic, fuk Facebook and any other non-elected people who supported that. I am continuously bombarded with emails about voting, who to vote for, etc. so here is my recommendation…vote out any and all incumbent’s if you want to vote.

        • Greg
          Apr 28th, 2012 at 11:56 | #34

          Incumbents generally means career politician so voting them out is great, but even if they only serve 5 minutes in service, they get benefits for LIFE. That is what really needs to stop.

  15. matt d
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 19:19 | #35

    Department of Homeland Security Expands Use of Watch Lists for “Known Traveler” Program

    http://epic.org/2012/04/department-of-homeland-securit-2.html

    why didn’t they just call it the fellow traveler program

    this thing is fucked up.

    “a DHS program that compares airline passenger records with various watch lists.”

    “The DHS also intends to incorporate into Secure Flight the Automated Targeting System, a controversial program that allows the government to assign a risk assessment number to individual travelers.”

  16. cams2
    Apr 26th, 2012 at 19:26 | #36
  17. Stephen
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 04:36 | #37
    • Stephen
      Apr 27th, 2012 at 04:43 | #38

      That is a pic from Jack Black’s band’s latest album.

      • Jesse
        Apr 27th, 2012 at 17:13 | #39

        He’s a Satanist. He and many other Hollywood toadies all joke about worshiping Satan in their films and shows way more than any other “religion.”

  18. Stephen
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 04:44 | #40
  19. Mudjack
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 13:53 | #41

    Fashion Statement Is Clear – the Gun Isn’t

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/us/fashion-statement-is-clear-the-gun-isnt.html?_r=2&src=me&ref=general

    *******

    It’s about fucking time.

    Sick of buying clothes that don’t fit my gun-toting lifestyle and that make me look like a sloppy hoggin’-pig in the process. Maybe Woolrich has a winner there.

    Way to go, Woolrich.

    Keep buying guns, Amerika. Everyone’s starting to catch on a little.

    Maybe too little too late, but better late than never.

    Buy guns.

    Buy more guns.

    Buy stuff from people who support you buying and having guns and carrying them around.

    Buy some more guns.

    Buy some more guns.

    Take your wife and your rug-rats shooting today.

    Take your husband shooting today.

    Take someone — ANYONE — shooting today!

    Buy guns — buy more guns.

    Carry guns.

    Carry loaded guns.

    Buy more guns, load them and carry them.

    You get the idea.

    • el
      Apr 27th, 2012 at 14:52 | #42

      we think so much alike its a little scary mud

    • el
      Apr 27th, 2012 at 14:56 | #43

      Im buying some of these pants as soon as I have the mon—-oh.

      damn. nevermind.

    • Doyel
      Apr 27th, 2012 at 15:00 | #44

      You should also try Wrangler “Riggs” pants – they are the same principal except they’ve been out for a couple of years and the ones I own are made here in the USA. Piss on that “tactical” stuff from 5.11 – I have never found any not made in chi-com land.

  20. Mudjack
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 13:55 | #45

    By the way, anyone know where I can get good Saffron in a little more quantity and a little (hopefully A LOT) cheaper?

    • el
      Apr 27th, 2012 at 14:47 | #46
      • Mudjack
        Apr 27th, 2012 at 17:08 | #47

        Thanks for the tip. I grow only two herbs right now: Cayenne and Comfrey and that’s it. And I don’t even have time for that.

        Saffron is very good shit, but very spendy. I saw, of all places, Trader Joe’s has it. I snagged up .020 oz. of Spanish Saffron for $5.99.

        • Doyel
          Apr 27th, 2012 at 17:10 | #48

          I might suggest, just knowing you, to start stock-piling jars of coconut oil as well. Grandma Jean and a few of us have been doing a lot of testing and use of it and I must say, it ranks right up there with Cayenne tincture and Anti-Plague (an absolute necessity in everybody’s home and stash).

          • Mudjack
            Apr 27th, 2012 at 18:58 | #49

            Sounds real good. I’ve got some, but not near enough. The Thai got me going on that stuff. Plus we’ve got twenty five or thirty coconut trees on the property @ Nakhon Pathom that no one pays any attention to until the coconuts are ready to start falling on people’s heads and autos. I find this very surprising since the Thai are so freakin’ freaky about their herbs.

        • el
          Apr 28th, 2012 at 04:35 | #50

          just put the lime in the coconut and mix it all up….

  21. Doyel
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 14:32 | #52

    Don’t forget Murmaider!

    • Mudjack
      Apr 27th, 2012 at 17:22 | #53

      Slashing and gashing those little fucks.

      Like… where do they think they’re gonna go?

      Sun Tzu said: “You can be sure of succeeding in your attacks if you only attack places which are undefended.”

      Mercy to none.

  22. eric
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 15:52 | #59

    Just received my new VA driver’s license. I don’t feel comfortable carrying this.
    http://www.vada.com/DealershipResources/NewsletterArticleArchives/NewDriversLicense/tabid/186/Default.aspx

    I guess it’s just as much my fault for not being “up” on the current situation of the new license. But I will tell my representatives that this isn’t the right direction.

    • eric
      Apr 27th, 2012 at 15:59 | #60

      “Virginians who apply for a driver’s license at DMV customer service centers will receive temporary driving permits.”

      This “temporary driving permit” is a plain piece of paper printed with white ink. Me thinks the real reason for this monstrosity was never about security.

  23. zack
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 21:41 | #61
  24. zack
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 21:55 | #62

    FBI whistleblower may enter Alaska sovereign citizens case

    http://www.alaskadispatch.com/articzle/fbi-whistleblower-may-enter-alaska-sovereign-citizens-case

    “Whitehurst worked for the FBI for more than a decade as an explosives expert in the agency’s crime lab. His career with the agency came to an end in 1998 on the heels of a report published by the Justice Department validating some of Whitehurst’s claims that bad work and bad court testimony had come out of the FBI crime lab, including on major cases like the Oklahoma City and World Trade Center bombings.”

  25. zack
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 22:03 | #63

    Border militia: patriots or vigilantes?

    http://rt.com/usa/news/border-militia-arizona-law-215/

    “Arizona as a state is taking control of its destiny, whether or not the government agrees that we have the right,” said Foot

    • el
      Apr 28th, 2012 at 08:21 | #64

      for some reason I thought vigilantes were a good thing.

      • zack
        Apr 28th, 2012 at 09:13 | #65

        Vigilante- a watchman or a member of a vigilance committee. What did our founding fathers say about being vigilant?Don’t listen to the RT rhetoric,just more changing of meanings of words in the minds of the masses.

  26. zack
    Apr 27th, 2012 at 22:57 | #66

    How the NRA Hijacked America

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/jess-coleman/how-the-nra-hijacked-amer_b_1439073.html

    This person is so far of its pathetic,typical whiny little twit socialist propaganda,fuk this guy and the NRA. He said , one interesting point is how he points out how gun control staryed with the fact that the patsy lee harvey ideals ordered a gun out of a magazine to kill Kennedy.hmmmmm blathering bullshit

  27. Lana
    Apr 28th, 2012 at 10:44 | #67

    L.A. riots: Good Samaritan remembers his scary truck-driver rescue
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/l-riots-good-samaritan-remembers-scary-truck-driver-105229769.html

  28. Mudjack
    Apr 28th, 2012 at 11:34 | #68
    • innocentbystander
      Apr 28th, 2012 at 14:26 | #69

      Call me a dummy, but I didn’t get the significance of the questions. Were the ‘students’ informed that they were being ‘tested’ on their capacity for ‘faith’? Or were they lead to believe that they were measuring only their capacity for analysis? The article being published in a science journal and not say, in Psychology Today or Philosophy Monthly makes this study highly suspect of being rigged.

      Logical thinking will only get you so far in life. I know lots of “smart” students who are complete retards when you take away their textbooks…

      (still thinking about it…)

      i.b.

      • Mudjack
        Apr 28th, 2012 at 16:47 | #70

        I can’t speak for everyone, but personally, I think that analytical thinking undermining religious faith is a really good thing. Good for all the boys and girls…

        … and that everyone should start undermining at their earliest convenience.

        If “logical thinking” can “only get you so far in life” – where does faith and religion get you?

        Logical thinking got you literally everything you have and got you where you are now and all that you take for granted, from the shoes on your feet and the clothes on your back to the food you put into your stomach, to the roof over your head, to the computer you are now screwing around with, to the leisure time you now have to screw around with it and to more “logical thinking” and action that drives the power plants that continue to provide it all for you.

        What’s faith and religion accomplished lately?

        Do tell.

        • Lana
          Apr 28th, 2012 at 18:06 | #71

          You should check out Bonhoeffer. He was a preacher and theologian in Nazi Germany who saw early on what was happening and eventually became involved in a plot to assassinate Hitler. While Hitler was using the church to promote his agenda, Bonhoeffer was involved in the Confessing Church, which was opposed to Hitler and the mainstream church. He wrote a few books on theology (which are very popular today and read by many) and his biography is very interesting. He talks about the difference between true and cheap grace and he calls “cheap grace” the empty grace we bestow on ourselves and which seems to be highly prevalent in churches today as it was in Nazi Germany.

          I think faith and religion can accomplish a lot, but only in one’s personal journey to know and become closer to God. I don’t think churches are accomplishing much good today and the preachers are mostly spreading “cheap grace” and platitudes. Then again, I haven’t been to church much, but the few times I went that was my impression.

          • innocentbystander
            Apr 28th, 2012 at 18:46 | #72

            I agree with what you said Lana, about faith being a personal journey. I think religion is always a personal experience between the individual and our Creator.

            I don’t go to church very much either, usually just for weddings and funerals. But… I ‘have’ seen how church religion has changed many peoples lives for the better. I think the Bible is a rule book for morality and other sorts of lessons. Some people need that to find their connection with God. And some people have always had a good life for practicing guidelines from the Bible, and for having those values instilled in them from birth. I’m not talking about material gain specifically, I mean they have a good life because they’re happy with what they have. And also because they’re inspired by God to make the most of what He has given to them.

            i.b.

          • Mudjack
            Apr 28th, 2012 at 19:13 | #73

            “I think faith and religion can accomplish a lot”

            What, exactly does it accomplish? I really don’t understand.

            • Lana
              Apr 28th, 2012 at 21:17 | #74

              Well, just in the example of Bonhoeffer, it gave him the wisdom and the courage to see and stand up to evil, which was very rare in his day. Religion gives many people comfort, wisdom, and strength and just makes them better people. It’s easy to judge people who are religious, but you have to remember they’re still human and still have faults.

              Ultimately understanding the truth about religion is about understanding reality and this gives you the correct perspective on life, and I’m in no way saying I’ve reached that place, I’m just beginning on this journey. Also, religion and the thought of an afterlife and answering to God for your life means responsibility for your actions.

              For me just reading Proverbs blows me away in how much wisdom it contains and how different the world would be if more people actually followed that advice. It continually implores people to seek knowledge and wisdom any way they can and that only with knowledge and wisdom can you even understand and appreciate the Bible. From the more religious people I know in my life, not too many of them seem to care that much about general knowledge and wisdom or to follow that advice, but that’s their choice.

              • Mudjack
                Apr 28th, 2012 at 23:21 | #75

                “It’s easy to judge people who are religious,”

                It’s easy to judge anyone. No one is infallible. Everyone is hereby judged. Done deal.

                I am not judging people in this context however. I am judging ideas.

                *******

                “Ultimately understanding the truth about religion is about understanding reality”

                Which religion? Which religion ultimately understands reality and gives one the correct perspective on life? Just one of them, only some of them, most of them or all of them? What makes your chosen religion any more true than all the others?

                *******

                “Also, religion and the thought of an afterlife and answering to God for your life means responsibility for your actions.”

                Answer to God for my life? I thought God made everything, including me, and has all the answers already? What does he need me for and why should I have to answer and how would I be able to answer for what God created? Taken literally, your propose that I must not only answer for myself and my own life but also for God.

                If God is who you say he is, who am I to get in the way of his plans, but only to be a slave to God? The existence of a God or a “society” effectively wipes out all my plans. If there is a God and/or a “society” and I am subject to it – there is no I and no rights.

                *******

                “It continually implores people to seek knowledge and wisdom any way they can”

                Now, that’s a really, truly scary thought. Is that quote from your religious text or did that come out of your own mouth?

                ********

                Not trying to be argumentative here — but if this stuff is to be taken literally I fear we have a long long long long long long long long long long long way to go in understanding it — and even then I don’t think it can ever be done.

                • Lana
                  Apr 29th, 2012 at 09:35 | #76

                  These are all great questions, Mudjack! They are addressed by theologians, which I am not, but I’ll try to answer them.

                  “Which religion? Which religion ultimately understands reality and gives one the correct perspective on life? Just one of them, only some of them, most of them or all of them? What makes your chosen religion any more true than all the others?”

                  Obviously all religions can’t be all right at the same time, but I don’t believe one religion will get you to heaven and all others to hell. I think it’s what you do with your knowledge and religion and what’s in your heart that matters. I’m curious about Christianity and looking at the history and evidence for Jesus. I thought “More than a Carpenter” was a good book. I also want to read “Who Moved the Stone?: A Skeptic Looks at the Death and Resurrection of Christ.”

                  “Answer to God for my life? I thought God made everything, including me, and has all the answers already? What does he need me for and why should I have to answer and how would I be able to answer for what God created? Taken literally, your propose that I must not only answer for myself and my own life but also for God.

                  If God is who you say he is, who am I to get in the way of his plans, but only to be a slave to God? The existence of a God or a “society” effectively wipes out all my plans. If there is a God and/or a “society” and I am subject to it – there is no I and no rights. ”

                  God gave you life but it’s your choice what you do with it or if you try to make God a part of your life. God has a plan for you that may or may not wipe out your plan, but again it’s your choice whose plan you follow.

                  “It continually implores people to seek knowledge and wisdom any way they can”

                  “Now, that’s a really, truly scary thought. Is that quote from your religious text or did that come out of your own mouth?”

                  I’ll type up some of the proverbs for you, I don’t see anything scary about them but maybe I didn’t express myself well.

                  “Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly.”

                  “Happy is the man that fndeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.
                  For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.”

                  “Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all they wisdom get understanding.”

                  There are differing schools of thought on how literally one should take the Bible and not everyone says everything should bet taken literally. I think that’s why you have to also look at history, anthropology, etc. One book I read that I thought was great on the subject is “Seeing trough the Eyes of Jesus” and it looked at history, anthropology, and psychology to try to construct the world as it was back then and what Jesus’ teachings meant in that light and in his day.

        • innocentbystander
          Apr 28th, 2012 at 18:20 | #77

          Hmm, lets see… an identity with God??…
          By the way, how do you know it wasn’t my faith in God that got me where I am, and NOT logical thinking???

          You believe in God Muddy. You’re just pissed at him for making you strong haha… I can be as logical as the next guy. In fact, if you ever reach the level of logic that I have, it will be clear to you that God is a very logical concept.

          Without God you’re nothing and you ‘have’ nothing. Nothing…

          i.b.

          • Mudjack
            Apr 28th, 2012 at 19:11 | #78

            “if you ever reach the level of logic that I have”

            Don’t look now, but you’re no longer an innocent bystander.

            • admin
              Apr 28th, 2012 at 20:05 | #79

              Well played, sir. Very well played.

            • innocentbystander
              Apr 28th, 2012 at 20:24 | #80

              Haha!…

  29. Mudjack
    Apr 28th, 2012 at 13:25 | #81

    My Good Friend, Elaine, Playing Her Guitar In Bangkok — Drunk As A Skunk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3iOhDNWet0

    • el
      Apr 28th, 2012 at 14:57 | #82

      that was awesome!

  30. JRV
    Apr 28th, 2012 at 13:41 | #83

    “Jesus Was a Commie” Says Movie Director Matthew Modine

    http://godfatherpolitics.com/4936/jesus-was-a-commie-says-movie-director-matthew-modine/

  31. JRV
    Apr 28th, 2012 at 13:48 | #84

    “Does the Bible support Communism?”

    http://www.gotquestions.org/communism-Bible.html

    Here is the refutation to the earlier link, “Jesus was a commie.”

  32. Cams2
    Apr 28th, 2012 at 15:27 | #85

    ‘Gaia’ scientist James Lovelock: I was ‘alarmist’ about climate change’

    Previous alarmism: “Before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable.”

    Now: “The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn’t happened,” Lovelock said.
    “The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time… it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that,” he added.

    http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134092/Gaia-scientist-James-Lovelock-I-alarmist-climate-change.html

    He does have another book to sell mind you….

    PS: My favourite global warming clip
    The Global Warming Hoax Explained for Dummies
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11TAWkx8o6w&feature=related

    “No. Ingnorant slut” Lol

  33. Hannibal
    Apr 28th, 2012 at 15:52 | #86

    Ha the saw guy is all I can see when I look at this guy now…

    http://news.yahoo.com/us-sees-south-america-possible-china-counter-140345250.html

  34. Mudjack
    Apr 29th, 2012 at 17:26 | #88

    Lana :
    These are all great questions, Mudjack! They are addressed by theologians, which I am not, but I’ll try to answer them.
    “Which religion? Which religion ultimately understands reality and gives one the correct perspective on life? Just one of them, only some of them, most of them or all of them? What makes your chosen religion any more true than all the others?”
    Obviously all religions can’t be all right at the same time, but I don’t believe one religion will get you to heaven and all others to hell. I think it’s what you do with your knowledge and religion and what’s in your heart that matters. I’m curious about Christianity and looking at the history and evidence for Jesus. I thought “More than a Carpenter” was a good book. I also want to read “Who Moved the Stone?: A Skeptic Looks at the Death and Resurrection of Christ.”
    “Answer to God for my life? I thought God made everything, including me, and has all the answers already? What does he need me for and why should I have to answer and how would I be able to answer for what God created? Taken literally, your propose that I must not only answer for myself and my own life but also for God.
    If God is who you say he is, who am I to get in the way of his plans, but only to be a slave to God? The existence of a God or a “society” effectively wipes out all my plans. If there is a God and/or a “society” and I am subject to it – there is no I and no rights. ”
    God gave you life but it’s your choice what you do with it or if you try to make God a part of your life. God has a plan for you that may or may not wipe out your plan, but again it’s your choice whose plan you follow.
    “It continually implores people to seek knowledge and wisdom any way they can”
    “Now, that’s a really, truly scary thought. Is that quote from your religious text or did that come out of your own mouth?”
    I’ll type up some of the proverbs for you, I don’t see anything scary about them but maybe I didn’t express myself well.
    “Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly.”
    “Happy is the man that fndeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.
    For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.”
    “Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all they wisdom get understanding.”
    There are differing schools of thought on how literally one should take the Bible and not everyone says everything should bet taken literally. I think that’s why you have to also look at history, anthropology, etc. One book I read that I thought was great on the subject is “Seeing trough the Eyes of Jesus” and it looked at history, anthropology, and psychology to try to construct the world as it was back then and what Jesus’ teachings meant in that light and in his day.

    Well, none of this religious shit has ever made any sense to me.

    Nice to see that you are sincere however.

    • innocentbystander
      Apr 29th, 2012 at 21:51 | #89

      Well, I was being sincere too… Sorry if I can’t explain my point of view more clearly. I can’t compare your life experiences to mine. All I can say is that God has been there for me and I’m not about to deny His Grace and Glory. Hope you don’t think I’m a religious fanatic – only because I’m not.

      I agree with you that atheism is your right to choose. But I do think it’s bullshit to say that those without religious faith are more logical. To me, that’s what the article is driving at, implying further that faith is not reasonable. If it doesn’t work for you that’s one thing, but personally, I believe that the academic “authorities” are deliberately trying to separate the “thinking man” from God. And I for one do not like that.

      i.b.

      By the way, are you still a mudjack? The word innocent has different implications, and so does bystander. It’s not who I really am…

      http://youtu.be/5u3wJLP1JZs

      • Mudjack
        Apr 30th, 2012 at 14:17 | #90

        “Sorry if I can’t explain my point of view more clearly.”

        No need to apologize for it; I’m not paying your way or signing your paychecks. And if I were, believe me, we’d get your sentences all straightened up without further ado or you’d be looking for another job real quick.

        Surely, you and you alone will suffer for it at all the right moments anyway and also in ways you never expected. It’s all on you.

        If you really are sincere, you’ll work harder at it and learn how to do it right. It’s a lot harder than most people think. Some put their noses to the grindstone and really practice their art and their performance and some don’t. Again, that’s all on you and that’s all up to you. Only extremely self-motivated motherfuckers can make it in the arts and sciences — and even after that — it’s still a rough, tough racket. That is, unless you got a grant from the government or some rich asshole to sit around and do what you like all day and call it “art” and/or “science”. But that’s not what I’d call success. I prefer to do things my own way and take whatever that gets me, for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, ’til death do I get the fuck up outta here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bAFITGnjrg

        “Ya walk across the floor with yo’ flower in your hand — trying to tell me no one understands.”

        You can take it or leave it. I love what I do and I don’t apologize.

        You are what you are. I accept that. Do you?

        *******
        “I agree with you that atheism is your right to choose.”

        I didn’t realize my rights were in question.

        *******

        “are you still a mudjack?”

        You goddamned right I am.

        I never was A mudjack. I am THE Mudjack.

        I’ve shoveled everything from shit out of the barn to splattered bodies off the pavement to criminal scum off the streets and loved every minute of it.

        Any man who is not willing to get his hands both bloody and dirty is no friend of mine.

        Still jackin’ after all these years.

        *******

        “It’s not who I really am…”

        Really? Well, who are you then? Do tell. Allow me to risk speaking for everyone — we’d all like to know.

        *******

        Thanks for the cool video by the way. As an artist and scientist, dedicated to my craft, I am always on the lookout for better ways to jack mud.

  35. Mudjack
    Apr 29th, 2012 at 21:41 | #91

    Lana :
    These are all great questions, Mudjack! They are addressed by theologians, which I am not, but I’ll try to answer them.
    “Which religion? Which religion ultimately understands reality and gives one the correct perspective on life? Just one of them, only some of them, most of them or all of them? What makes your chosen religion any more true than all the others?”
    Obviously all religions can’t be all right at the same time, but I don’t believe one religion will get you to heaven and all others to hell. I think it’s what you do with your knowledge and religion and what’s in your heart that matters. I’m curious about Christianity and looking at the history and evidence for Jesus. I thought “More than a Carpenter” was a good book. I also want to read “Who Moved the Stone?: A Skeptic Looks at the Death and Resurrection of Christ.”
    “Answer to God for my life? I thought God made everything, including me, and has all the answers already? What does he need me for and why should I have to answer and how would I be able to answer for what God created? Taken literally, your propose that I must not only answer for myself and my own life but also for God.
    If God is who you say he is, who am I to get in the way of his plans, but only to be a slave to God? The existence of a God or a “society” effectively wipes out all my plans. If there is a God and/or a “society” and I am subject to it – there is no I and no rights. ”
    God gave you life but it’s your choice what you do with it or if you try to make God a part of your life. God has a plan for you that may or may not wipe out your plan, but again it’s your choice whose plan you follow.
    “It continually implores people to seek knowledge and wisdom any way they can”
    “Now, that’s a really, truly scary thought. Is that quote from your religious text or did that come out of your own mouth?”
    I’ll type up some of the proverbs for you, I don’t see anything scary about them but maybe I didn’t express myself well.
    “Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly.”
    “Happy is the man that fndeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.
    For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.”
    “Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all they wisdom get understanding.”
    There are differing schools of thought on how literally one should take the Bible and not everyone says everything should bet taken literally. I think that’s why you have to also look at history, anthropology, etc. One book I read that I thought was great on the subject is “Seeing trough the Eyes of Jesus” and it looked at history, anthropology, and psychology to try to construct the world as it was back then and what Jesus’ teachings meant in that light and in his day.

    This religious shit still makes no sense at all to me, but your sincerity is appreciated.

  36. Lana
    Apr 29th, 2012 at 22:36 | #92

    Thanks, Mudjack, I appreciate your questions and response. I used to also be very skeptical on religion and some stuff still makes no sense to me, but in many ways I’ve come around.

    innocentbystander,

    “I believe that the academic “authorities” are deliberately trying to separate the “thinking man” from God. And I for one do not like that.”

    I completely agree.

    • Lana
      Apr 29th, 2012 at 22:42 | #93

      Or rather I should say doesn’t entirely make sense, but I’m still learning and not saying I have all the answers.

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